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Please post more details on this tournament.
Are you going to use a time limit? What system are you going to play (example: Swiss)? How about the rules?
We have, over the years, perfected the best tournament method to use.
Since this is doubles, and it begins at 1pm, we want the teams to play about 2 games per hour, so I figure 6 games are played, then the top 4 teams play direct elimination (2 games max).
Each doubles team can be pre-formed, or if you're a solitary player, you can show up at the event and we'll match you with a partner.
To keep things moving along, we shall use a 40 minute time limit (with a 10 minute warning).
The pathways at Campus Martius Park all present a relatively flat surface (some has slight slopes) and some have curving boundary walls, others are straighter. We'll use colored string as the dead-boule line for some courts.
If you have any more questions, please let me know.
Jeff
Jeff,
You wrote: "We have, over the years, perfected the best tournament method to use."
Which one is it... swiss, pool or round robin in groups? I am just being curious. Other things seem clear.
Cheers,
Dawid Jodlowiec
Chicago Petanque Club
It's actually called "Meshugunah Method" - you're probably not familiar with it. Nonetheless, it is far superior to all of the confusing systems the other clubs use.
Jeff.
A sheynem dank,
Everything's clear now. I will be sure to join you then!
Zay gezunt!
Dawid Jodlowiec
Dawid:
The method is a mixture of the best portions of all of the tournament styles.
Each team (in this case, doubles) is written on to small labels.
Then each doubles team will draw a number randomly. (I use numbered chits in a hat for this)
Then corresponding to the number drawn, that team's label is applied to the "Score Sheet" which lays out which numbered team plays which numbered team throughout the day. The Score-Sheet has spaces for the score your team received as well as the score the opposing team earned.
As the day progresses, and depending upon if there is a consolante level, we "order the teams" with first and foremost, the # of wins. Then if there are duplications in #'s of wins (likely) we take the total # of points earned and subtract the total # of points your opponents earned to get a clearer ranking.
That is to say, if you won a game 13/12 - that is not as good a ranking as if you beat them 13/1
Then, the second half of the day has the half of teams that were highest ranked (winners circle); and the rest fall into the consolante circle. We have teams play every other team in their circle - resulting in a winning team from the Winner's and Consolante Circles.
Sometimes, we may even pick teams randomly... We give each "shooter" (because they tend to be more experienced) a random number. And then distribute numbers to th remaining players. The matching numbers make up the teams.
So, that's my kind of short answer to your question! I am in the process of making a "Tournament Package" (.pdf format) to post on the website for all to use. In the meantime, check out the Tournament Section on the www.michiganpetanque.com website, you can use the who-plays-whom tables and Scoresheets there... so All you'd then need are the number chits (easily made from scraps of paper.
Jeff.
Jeff,
Thank you - now I have a clear idea of what we are going to encounter ;-)
In other words, not one of the popular tournament systems, but rather a random team draw allowing to play first avalible team.
What time is this tournament going to end? More or less... (We will have to get back to Chicago the same day).
One more thing. I have some ideas on putting together an individual (and club) classification for the Midwest Petanque Alliance and a Midwest league tournaments series counting to that club classification. I hope you are interested we will find time to talk about that on the 25th.
Cheers,
Dawid Jodlowiec
Chicago Petanque Club
Hey Dawid:
First and foremost, please know that i try to put too much humor into what i write on the BLOG, Petanque.Org etc etc, so please forgive me. As for the tournament method, as far as FPUSA tournament's go, they probably use one of the 2 methods (Pools; Swiss) for official FPUSA tournaments. We use a variation on those methods infusing more randomness into who plays whom - so that teams cannot say they were "purposely pitted against difficult teams" - luck/random draws for teams playing other teams has been successful with the tournaments we've run the past few years.
As this year's tournament is on a Sunday (so many of our French and Canadian members can also participate) - and at 1pm (so those who go to Church (or have morning errands/sleep) can also participate) - and ends at around 6pm... I'm not sure if this gives you adequate time to hustle back to Chicago... BUT I hope you can make it, it'll be a fun event... Doubles (you can come up as a team, or we can pair you with someone who needs a double's mate).
Joe Zajac of the Michigan Petanque Club has just been made the Midwest Regional Counselor he can offer some helpful information and advice. (info@michiganpetanque.com)
As for Club and individual classifications... THAT would be fantastic! Joe Z. and I know that some clubs (in Britain/France) use a classification system to rank their players/teams/clubs - factored around a point system for not only games won/lost (points given); but also in numbers of carreaus, close points, jack-ball hits/moves... I'll tell you though... to get down to that degree of sophistication, it'll take people dedicated to jotting down that data... then entering it into Excel... (lots of work!) But I certainly would love to see what you've worked on.
All the best and hope to see you, (by the way, Joe and I and a few others are going to NYC to participate in their annual Bastille Day event (80+ teams competing in petanque played in the streets of Brooklyn - sand poured right on to the street and we play right there!) Perhaps you and friends want to also go... July 16th.
Jeff.
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